| DEMOCRATS vs. REPUBLICANS |
| Scroll gets to the bottom of campus politics |
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BYU-Idaho’s two political associations, College Democrats and College Republicans, were given a series of identical questions by Scroll. These questions were formulated to help students understand positions on political issues, not necessarily the standard
party platform. The responses were developed by the associations and their respective officers: Tanner Nielsen, public relations director for College Republicans; and Hannah Vinson, communications director for College Democrats.
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| 1) What issues do you feel are most important to BYU-I students?
2) What is your position on the current state of education in the United States?
3) What is your position on the war in Iraq?
4) Are there differences between your position on issues and the national party’s position?
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5) What are some common misconceptions about your association?
6) How does your association deal with differences between your party’s platform and LDS standards?
7) What makes your party better than the other?
8) On what points do you agree with the other association?
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| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| Why would anyone in their right mind form an organization of Democrats at a Latter-day Saint university?
Well, while there is a chance we aren’t functioning in our right minds, we think political diversity on this campus has been underestimated. Once people become moderately secure in the sanity of the College Democrats’ leadership, the purpose of our organization tends to become the next question.
College Democrats is devoted to an increase in student activity as well as education. Involvement in organizations like the College Democrats helps foster a feeling of belonging for all students.
In 2004, 47 percent of 18-24 year olds voted, compared with 66 percent of citizens 25 and older. In College Democrats, we believe these numbers are unacceptable. In our age group, decisions are made by the minority. Political apathy now seems to be the norm at universities across the nation. College Democrats is out to change that.
In addition to monthly service projects, we are involved in several Idaho election campaigns, including Jerry Brady for governor and Jana Jones for superintendent of Public Instruction.
Education is crucial to the purpose of College Democrats. Weekly, members of our organization lead discussions on the Constitution and the news. As per education across campus, we’ve already had a flier campaign this semester.
Though it may seem downright weird at first to have College Democrats at BYU-I, it is important to remember our purposes of education and activity. It might be odd, but College Democrats is here to stay.
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Do you ever get tired? Tired of what’s going on in the world and in this country?
Are you tired of foreign thugs who can’t think of anything but how to hurt us? Tired of the government taxing anything and everything?
Are you tired of the trash being taught in our public schools? Tired of dirty hippies who protest everything good and decent? Are you tired of gay cowboy movies? So are we.
That’s why we got together and decided to do something about it. We’re the College Republicans. We’re a group made up of students and run by students. You’ve probably heard of us.
When you hear about us or see a poster, most of you think, “Well, I voted for Bush. Haven’t I done enough?” The answer is yes. If you took the effort to go out and vote, you’re doing fine, better than most people even.
But some of you want to do more. Some are tired enough that they want to get up and do something. That’s what we’re here for. We teach, preach, promote and love conservative government and conservative values.
Are you conservative? If you were nodding your head to the questions above, then yeah, you are a conservative.
The College Republicans is an outlet for students who want to do more. And that’s just what we do more.
We love conservative values enough that we do all we can to teach our fellow students, preach what is going on and what needs to be done and promote these values to anyone and everyone.
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| What issues do you feel are most important to BYU-I students? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| Education funding and education in general really impact BYU-I students. There are 6,383 students at this school who receive federal aid.
In addition, 2,057 students at this university are education majors. The changes President Bush is proposing with regards to education are really going to impact the next generation of teachers in the United States. Health care will also be an issue for almost all of BYU-Idaho’s student body, sooner or later. Probably sooner for the around 3,000 married students at this institution.
The accomplishments of modern medicine are extraordinary and all Americans (yes, even John Kerry) should be able to access help when they need it.
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The issues students face now are the same issues they will have to face when they are “adults.” We are citizens of this nation regardless of whether we are 18 or 80 years old. Just because you are still getting an education doesn’t mean that issues like foreign policy, taxes or health care are things you don’t need to worry about yet.
Why? Because when you are out in the world and need to be involved in decisions about these things, you need to know what needs to be done doubly so if you are a Latter-day Saint college student. Many of us want to change the country’s laws on abortion and gay marriage. Will these things go away by themselves? No. Can we vote for leaders who will change the laws? Yes, but who will be the leaders?
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| What is your position on the current state of education in the United States? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| Education is vital in today’s world! Education seriously needs reform. However, cutting $12.7 billion in student aid isn’t helping the problem. The No Child Left Behind Act doesn’t help either. First, it doesn’t give local school districts enough support.
Also, the application of No Child Left Behind has the potential to cripple the learning abilities of this entire generation. It encourages teachers to teach to the test. Basically, this means students might know the answers to the tests, but they won’t understand the application.
We aren’t saying the education system is perfect. However, this doesn’t mean we think we should sell it out through the voucher program. Instead, we need to focus on fixing education so every child in the United States can get a quality education.
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The Republican-supported No Child Left Behind Act increased federal education funding for Idaho to more than $204.8 million more than $28 million more than last year and a 36.4 percent increase over 2000 levels. It requires every classroom in Idaho to have a highly qualified teacher, and it provides more than $13.6 million for teacher training. It increases Pell grant funding to an estimated $56.6 million $3.7 million more than last year and a 24.3 percent increase over 2000 levels.
On the other hand, Democrats controlled the House and Senate of this country for 30 plus years. Of those teaching at American universities and colleges, 72 percent are liberal, while a miniscule 15 percent are conservative. If Democrats had such a monopoly on education and the law making body of the government, why was no major action taken until Bush was in office?
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| What is your position on the war in Iraq? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| We support the troops in Iraq 100 percent. It must be understood that our dissent with regards to the invasion isn’t a lack of support. However, we also feel that war should always be the tool of last resort.
To me, it is clear that not all options were exhausted before the invasion of Iraq. Now that we are there, we must endeavor to make the best out of a bad situation.
However, our being there does not mean the door is closed on why we went in. Put another way, even though the decision to go to Iraq is in the distant past, Americans deserve to know what led us into Iraq in the first place.
Leaders need to be held accountable if decisions were made incorrectly. If there were massive intelligence errors, reforms need to be made.
We can learn a lot and improve from our mistakes.
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We’re ashamed there was debate in this country on whether or not to free 50 million people from tyranny and oppression. The United States, birthplace of freedom, had to consider whether we had the right to save people under dictators! Rights? We have that right as human beings!
As for losing this war, it took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. It took less time to find chemical weapons in Iraq than it took Sen. Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records. It took less time for the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick. Saddam is on trial. Al-Quaeda is on the run. How exactly are we losing? The men and women of our Armed Forces deserve our gratitude and respect.
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| Are there differences between your position on issues and the national party’s position? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| Obviously, the national group is more liberal than the campus group. Again, it isn’t a requirement to comply with every aspect of a chosen party. It would be unfair to think that every single Democrat at BYU-I is a mini-Michael Moore. We tend to be more mainstream than that.
We look to the Church for guidelines on moral issues and follow every stance the Church makes concerning them. Also, the national party seems to be a little more into mud slinging. This isn’t a good way to communicate. We want to work with the Republican Party to build a better America. After all, we all live here!
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Despite the large percentage of students at this school from Idaho and Utah, our organization draws members from all parts of the country.
Even among ourselves we have differences of opinion on what exactly needs to be done. This is all in good fun for us. Since we, as an organization, do not independently take a stance on any issue, there is no difference between our stance and the national party.
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| What are some common misconceptions about your association? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| As a Democrat for four or five years now, and as one coming from a very conservative community, I have become used to the “are you serious?” look I get when people find out I am a Democrat.
People in general tend to group Democrats with abortion and gay marriage and simply leave it at that. There is a lot more to the Democratic party than those two issues!
The other big misconception with our group is the old argument that good members of the Church can’t be Democrats.
The Church doesn’t take a political stance. It allows members to choose whichever political affiliation we please. Also, LDS Democrats can succeed politically. Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader, is a great example of an LDS Democrat.
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There aren’t many. Students who come to meetings like what we do and how we present ourselves.
We aren’t self-righteous, we aren’t fanatics and we aren’t exclusive. Anyone may join us and anyone may come to the meetings. We don’t look down on anyone for “not being conservative enough,” and we love nothing more than intelligent discussion.
Some may accuse us of being narrow-minded, but it is difficult to have serious discussions about things like abortion or gay marriage.
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| How does your association deal with differences between your party’s platform and LDS standards? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| Really, there are no significant differences in the Democratic Party platform and the standards of the Church.
I know you’re probably laughing, but hear me out. What I mean is that a person can easily be both a good Latter-day Saint and a good Democrat.
We follow all moral stances the Church has made. Democrats don’t have to be pro-choice or pro-gay marriage. Beginning in 1996, the Democratic Party’s platform specifically said people who disagree with its support for legal abortion were welcome.
When President Gordon B. Hinckley was asked by the National Press Club if it is possible to be a good Church member and a Democrat, he replied, “Yes, I think so. I don’t know why you couldn’t.”
Should an irreconcilable difference between the Church and the Democratic Party appear, we are sure to follow the Church.
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To be honest, we do not believe there are any major differences between our party’s platform and LDS standards. None of our officers could think of one.
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| What makes your party better than the other? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| Now, I know Democrats are stuck-up white collar elitists who should jump at the chance to rag on the Republican Party, but we really believe there isn’t an absolute “better” concerning political affiliation.
Democrats and Republicans simply have different beliefs, ideals and means to achieve their goals. No party has a monopoly on truth or morality.
For us, as members of College Democrats, the Democratic Party is a better fit because of the way problems are approached and which problems are deemed priorities.
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The main idea behind liberalism is that the government is more capable of making decisions and getting things done than the individual. We don’t like that. We know you don’t like that.
Conservatism believes that your national government should only do what a state government cannot do. State government should only do what city government cannot do. And city government should only do what people cannot do by themselves. Makes sense, doesn’t it?
We also tend to be more traditionally moral than liberals. Gay marriage, abortion, pornography; Republicans are usually the ones trying to get rid of these, while liberals spend their time trying to defend those who spread them. We don’t like that either.
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| On what points do you agree with the other association? |
| College Democrats |
College Republicans |
| The groups here on campus have more similarities than differences.
I’m sure the College Republicans agree with us that the United States is a wonderful place, a place where anyone can succeed. Both of our groups believe in America. We clearly both feel that political activity is crucial in college students.
Also, both our groups are in complete compliance with any moral stances the Church has made.
We both believe BYU-I is a great school, filled with inspiring people. The Spirit of Ricks is important to this campus, and we believe in preserving it.
Part of the purpose of both groups is to help students become more involved on campus and to give students a voice. As I am sure is the case with the College Republicans, anyone with any view is welcome at our meetings.
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We agree that the United States is a great country. We agree that we need wise, efficient government. We agree that the citizens of this country should be safe, healthy and happy.
We just have very different opinions as to what makes a great country, what is efficient government and how the citizens of this country can be safe, healthy and happy.
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